Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/01/1994 10:10 AM Senate FIN

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  SB 247 STATE LEASES & LEASE-PURCHASE FINANCING                               
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Pearce directed  that  SB 247  be  brought on  for                 
  discussion  and  referenced  a  new,  draft  Senate  Finance                 
  Committee Substitute (8-LS1447\X, Chenoweth, 1/31/94).   Co-                 
  chair Frank MOVED  for adoption  of the new  "X" version  in                 
  place of  the previously  adopted "O"  draft.  No  objection                 
  having  been raised,  CSSB 247  (2d Fin),  "X" version,  was                 
  ADOPTED.  He  then requested  that the drafter  of the  bill                 
  speak to changes incorporated therein.                                       
                                                                               
  JACK CHENOWETH, Counsel, Legal Services, Legislative Affairs                 
  Agency, explained that the title was tightened considerably.                 
  It cites new  thresholds for legislative approval  of annual                 
  rental payments that  exceed $500.0 or total  lease payments                 
  that exceed $2,500.0 over the term of the lease.  Thresholds                 
  in current  law are  $1 million  and $10  million.   Further                 
  changes include:                                                             
                                                                               
  Page 3, line 8 -                                                             
       "under  this subsection"  was  changed  to "under  this                 
  paragraph"     since "paragraph" is the proper reference.                    
                                                                               
  Page 6, lines 22 through 25 -                                                
       Addition  of "if the total  of all periods provided for                 
       in the  lease exceeds  the original  term of  the lease                 
       exclusive of the total period  of all renewal options."                 
       Mr.  Chenoweth  explained  that   under  the  foregoing                 
       language, the  cumulative total of  renewal periods may                 
       not be longer than the term of the original lease.                      
                                                                               
  Page 6, Sec. 7, subsections (b), (d), and (e) -                              
       Earlier  adopted  amendments  inserted "real  property"                 
  into      lease-purchase language in these subsections.                      
                                                                               
  In response to a question from Co-chair Frank, Mr. Chenoweth                 
  reiterated  that  under   new  language   at  page  6,   the                 
  administration would  be barred  from  entering leases  with                 
  renewal  options  beyond  the term  of  the  original lease,                 
  regardless of the  cost involved.  Co-chair  Frank requested                 
  comments from the administration.                                            
                                                                               
  (Senator Kerttula arrived at this time.)                                     
                                                                               
  DUGAN PETTY, Director,  Division of General  Services, Dept.                 
  of Administration, came  before committee.   Co-chair  Frank                 
  asked if  the foregoing  addition would  be  workable.   Mr.                 
  Petty responded affirmatively.  He  explained that the state                 
  has  approximately  "a half  dozen"  leases that  would ever                 
  approach the existing $10 million threshold.  The  effect of                 
  lowering  the  threshold   to  $2,500.0   is  that  it   now                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  encompasses approximately  30 "medium-range  leases."   When                 
  these  30  leases  were initially  acquired,  the  state was                 
  barred from ever having anything more than either "two, one-                 
  year renewals or one, two-year renewal." The state was  also                 
  barred from renewing an existing lease with a renewal option                 
  in excess  of two  years.   The state  was thus  looking for                 
  flexibility  to  establish   renewal  options  or   exercise                 
  existing renewal options that exceeded that two-year period.                 
  Mr.  Petty voiced his  understanding that the  intent of the                 
  proposed requirement on  renewal options  is to prevent  the                 
  administration  from entering  into  a lease  with  numerous                 
  renewals  so  that  the  lease  is  never  completed.    The                 
  questions  is,  Where is  the  appropriate level  to cut-off                 
  renewal options and force re-bid of  the lease?  Most leases                 
  are three to five  years in term while larger  leases extend                 
  up to ten years.   New provisions would ensure  that renewal                 
  options would not exceed the initial term of the lease.                      
                                                                               
  (Senator Jacko arrived at this time.)                                        
                                                                               
  Senator   Kerttula   said  that   his  concern   relates  to                 
  legislative ability to control construction (lease-purchase)                 
  at  a  certain  level  and  prohibit   the  administration's                 
  circumvention of that  control by leasing for  large amounts                 
  for long periods  of time.  Mr. Petty  noted that the leases                 
  and terms he cited relate to  operational leases that do not                 
  include  a purchase  option.  Senator  Kerttula acknowledged                 
  that  fact  and stressed  that  the proposed  bill  seeks to                 
  extend  legislative control  over  both  rental  leases  and                 
  lease-purchase arrangements.  In response to comments by Co-                 
  chair Frank,  Mr. Petty acknowledged that  newly established                 
  thresholds would  apply to  both rental  leases and  renewal                 
  options.  Associated amounts would be  set out in the budget                 
  and identified in advance.  He stressed that all  leases are                 
  subject to legislative appropriation.                                        
                                                                               
  Discussion  followed between Mr.  Petty and Senator Kerttula                 
  concerning  long-term  commitments  associated  with  rental                 
  leases.                                                                      
                                                                               
  End, SFC-94, #10, Side 1                                                     
  Begin, SFC-94, #10, Side 2                                                   
                                                                               
  Further   discussion  followed   regarding   the  means   of                 
  identifying  leases anticipated  to  exceed new  thresholds.                 
  Co-chair Frank acknowledged that, regardless of language  in                 
  the proposed  bill, the  legislature would  "definitely have                 
  our stab at it in the budget process."                                       
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Frank  further  noted  questions  associated  with                 
  whether the state  should lease-purchase or lease  for long-                 
  term periods and never  own the facility.   Senator Kerttula                 
  voiced his preference for not encouraging the state to enter                 
  long-term leases.    Co-chair Frank  said  that he  did  not                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  believe  the  proposed   bill  would  do   so.    When   the                 
  administration   presents   large,   long-term  leases   for                 
  legislative approval, the legislature should raise questions                 
  concerning other options such as lease-purchase or a capital                 
  request to construct a  facility.  The Co-chair voiced  need                 
  to  ensure  that the  legislature  is  "in the  loop"  while                 
  refraining  from  placing   a  "straight   jacket"  on   the                 
  department that  ultimately makes leasing  or lease-purchase                 
  more  costly.  Mr. Petty said that it makes sense to provide                 
  a renewal option  if it makes  sense to be  in the lease  to                 
  begin with.   The eventual impact of the bill  over the life                 
  of  existing  leases  will  be to  bring  "some  thirty more                 
  leases" before the legislature for approval.                                 
                                                                               
  Discussion  followed  between   committee  members  and  Mr.                 
  Chenoweth regarding  acquisition of  commodities other  than                 
  real  property.    Co-chair Frank  acknowledged  that  large                 
  computer  system purchases are also of concern.  Last year's                 
  cumulative total was  in excess  of $20 million.   He  again                 
  pointed to legislative control through the budget process.                   
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce  called for additional questions or comments                 
  on the bill.   None were forthcoming.  The  Co-chair queried                 
  members concerning disposition.  Senator Kerttula MOVED that                 
  CSSB  247  (2d  Fin)  pass  from committee  with  individual                 
  recommendations,  the  previously  adopted   Senate  Finance                 
  letter  of intent, and  accompanying zero fiscal  notes.  No                 
  objection having been raised, CSSB 247 (2d Fin) was REPORTED                 
  OUT of committee with a new title (An  Act making subject to                 
  prior legislative approval contracts entered into or renewed                 
  by the executive branch of state government, the legislative                 
  council,  the  Alaska Court  System,  and the  University of                 
  Alaska for  the lease of real  property if the lease  has an                 
  annual rent payable  that is anticipated to  exceed $500,000                 
  or has total payments that exceed $2,500,000 for the term of                 
  the lease, including any renewal options that are defined in                 
  the lease; prohibiting these entities  from entering into or                 
  renewing a  lease of  real property  if any  or all  renewal                 
  periods in the lease exceed the  original term of the lease;                 
  making subject to prior  legislative approval lease-purchase                 
  agreements  that may  be entered  into by these  entities to                 
  acquire real property,  other than lease-purchase agreements                 
  to refinance outstanding balances on existing lease-purchase                 
  agreements   and   lease-purchase   agreements  secured   by                 
  University of  Alaska student fees and  university receipts;                 
  authorizing  these  entities  to  enter into  lease-purchase                 
  agreements only in the capacity of lessee under the proposed                 
  lease-purchase  agreement;  defining  procedures that  these                 
  entities  must  follow when  considering  whether or  not to                 
  enter into  lease-purchase agreements, and setting limits on                 
  the duration of these agreements; providing  definitions for                 
  applicable terms; and providing for  an effective date), the                 
  previous Senate Finance  letter of  intent, and zero  fiscal                 
  notes from the  Dept. of Administration and  the Legislative                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Affairs Agency.   All members  present signed the  committee                 
  report with a "do pass"  recommendation.  Senator Rieger was                 
  absent from the meeting and did not sign.                                    
                                                                               

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